So, who are you? Mac, PC, Linux…

An emotive question, no doubt about it.

But one that is often a topic of conversation at the vast majority of any tech MeetUps, Open Coffee events and blogger get-togethers. Thinking about the technology, the raw computing power and the webapps we all take for granted these days, it is startling in the extreme to look back at what once was the norm.

Here at Hull Digital, our first memories of the home computer are the good old BBC Model B (and yes, we did get to Elite ranking on that classic Beeb game Elite!). Friends had Spectrums, Amigas, Acorn Electrons and Commie 64s, which led to Atari STs and for us, a Windows PC back in 1997. The days of dial up modems, floppy disks and those first forays onto the web remain vivid and we often shake our head to realise just how far we have come.

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Which leads us onto now, and a confession. Yes, we are very much Apple fanboys here in the Hull Digital “command centre”, and have been since early 2002. A second generation iPod led to the very first Mac arrival, a 17″ iMac G4, which is now resplendent in the kitchen and working brilliantly! From there, the coffers of Apple and Mr Jobs have been lined handsomely, from PowerMac G5s, to MacPros and MacBook Airs, not to mention Apple TV, Apple HiFi (massively underrated) and 30″ screens.

Why so engrossed in Mac culture? For us, ease of use and design are 2 for starters, along with fun to use, amazing UI and the strength of the Apple brand itself. Yes, we are pretty smitten, and, being honest, possibly a little blinkered. In our minds, no one can compete with the design / hardware of Apple, but we are very interested to learn about other OS alternatives, especially with Windows 7 coming soon and also the emergence of Linux being more popular than ever.

windows7With Vista leading to new entries into the Oxford English Dictionary (“Visaster”) πŸ˜‰ it is going to be interesting to see how it is adopted by personal and business users. It seems that they have learnt their lesson and have gone down the route of less is more, something we are a big fan of. We’re not quite sure about the advertising campaigns just yet, but we guess imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery.

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Linux is something that Sean Kelly is going to be talking about at the next MeetUp, and we’re really looking forward to this. Out knowledge of this OS and all the variations is limited to say the least, so education is sorely needed!

Amongst us all, there will some strong devotion to all the Operating Systems, whether OSX, Ubuntu or Windows. What we thought would be useful is if people would post up what OS they use, on what hardware, and why. That way we can make it easier for people to know who to contat if they have a problem, a question or need some advice. Also, it would be very interesting to know if you have different preferences or platforms between work and home….

Please fire away in the comments!

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38 Responses to “So, who are you? Mac, PC, Linux…”

  1. Slate512
    March 8, 2009 at 12:25 pm #

    Ah but did you buy your shiny Apple goods at your local Hull Apple store on Carr Lane? They’re a friendly knowlegeable (knowitall?) bunch… Give em a try!

  2. admin
    March 8, 2009 at 12:34 pm #

    Hmmmm not many purchases made in Hull yet, we must admit! Very nearly popped in there the other day to see if they fancied coming along to our MeetUp…

    If you know them, please let them know about http://www.hulldigital.co.uk! πŸ™‚

  3. Monica Tailor
    March 8, 2009 at 1:05 pm #

    These days I’m a PC but it’s for practical reasons. I use a PC because most client’s so and it means I can see what they are seeing.

    However, I am in my heart of hearts a mac-fan. I remember being very small playing games on my Dad’s Mac, but the the love affair really began when I got my first job in a design agency and they asked what colour iMac I would like, what a fantastic way to sell a job? (I chose a green one btw). In those days I had a great excuse to be on a Mac full-time, my main client account was Apple Europe.

  4. Dave Foy
    March 8, 2009 at 1:11 pm #

    At work and at home we’re all Mac and wouldn’t have it any other way.

    I regularly used (tho sadly didn’t own, due to the expense) a series of Macs from the late 80’s to the mid-90’s when I worked in schools, as they were an education staple (along with the mighty BBC) before Microsoft took the cake and ate it. I loved Macs then – simply, they were easy and fun to use.

    Subsequently used PCs for a good long time, including when I started up my own business in 2003. Soon bought a Mac though (all my subcontractors and colleagues had them) and honestly, my productivity went up enormously.

    Currently own 3 Macs (Macbook Pro, Mac Mini, iBook G4) though have also owned a PowerPC G5 and iMac, plus the Apple Hi-Fi (I agree Jon, can’t believe it was discontinued), 5 Airport Express units, iPhone, 3 iPods, etc, etc.

    If I’m going to spend my working and personal life immersed in and surrounded by technology I don’t believe that the experience should have to be grey, dull, soulless or hard to use.

  5. @nthony
    March 8, 2009 at 1:17 pm #

    Download yourself a copy of Ubuntu Mossman, and have a play with the live CD on a windows machine (it will not effect the OS installed – and yes you can start using it then and there while the OS is installing). Redhat and SuSE have gone down the filthy lucre route, embrace those still free – Fedora and Ubuntu first – representing the .RPM and the .DEB families.

    The main issue for years has been the level of understanding required to use it, and while that’s obviously a plus point to any community, they are going to greater lengths to make it easier – and equally importantly supporting more hardware.

    Proper computing concepts are key, and lets face it Wintendo is only starting to grasp concepts of permissions and multi users. Apple use a unix kernel… so we are in a way whether you like it or not – brethren.

    It’s all about right tool for the job. Many mates find themselves using a Mac running a windows emulation or VM for work, as I do from time to time within Linux. It’s a necessity.

    Get some hands on, and have an opinion mate ;o)

    *shhh – not strictly Hull either – shhhh.

  6. @nthony
    March 8, 2009 at 1:20 pm #

    Background for me: zx81, Spectrum, QL, Nokia XT, IBM AT, [sea of Clones], Sun Ultra5. SMP machines from about 1999 onward, and Linux at home and work since 2000.

  7. admin
    March 8, 2009 at 2:21 pm #

    WOW! A great response already – thanks! πŸ™‚

    @monica – what a wonderful story and incentive for joining the agency – I know some companies are starting to give people the choice for what laptop they have, but not many!

    @nthony – I know, I should get my hands dirty and have a bask with Ubuntu or Fedora. If Apple don’t release a Netbook soon, I may consider getting one with Linux on to have a play with. Mr Cleary is rather knowledgeable in this area, so will look to him for some guidance.

    @ Dave – we are so on the same page here – use something which delights, looks good and is a joy to use and not the opposite. I’m a BIG believer in this for anything you use on a daily basis, from coffee machines, to light switches to home phones.

  8. Shaun Turner
    March 8, 2009 at 3:31 pm #

    Well @ home we are Windoze desktops with Linux development servers (Ubuntu and Fedora).

    I would LOVE to migrate to Linux fully but I guess I am too lazy to want to:
    a) spend so much time configuring drivers and downloading libraries just to get wifi working
    b) spend 5 days trying to show my family how to login in, browse the web, use Amarok, run Thunderbird and find everything in the sometimes obscure menu interface:P

    But Mac? No way, that’s like Voodoo man!

    I often find myself staring longingly at my framed Vic 20 sales brochure (complete with prices scribbled on – Β£189 for computer, Β£45 for tape drive) and missing the days of POKE and PEEK.

    Mac? πŸ™‚

  9. admin
    March 8, 2009 at 4:29 pm #

    “Voodoo”?! πŸ˜‰ I think not, just beautiful and just works!

    Very impressed with the Vic 20 memorabilia. I am pretty sure I have some Knightlore and Alien8 boxes somewhere from my Model B days….

  10. Carl Plage
    March 8, 2009 at 5:57 pm #

    OK for me the days of computing started in 1980 with a ZX80 and progressing through ZX81/ Spectrum/ Sharp MZ80K/ Commodore 64/ Dragon 64/ Atari ST1024 then a little break before joining PC with a 386SX (not even a maths co-processor) and moving upto current PC and laptops.
    Jackie has her mac and we have various pc’s and 2 laptops in the house some running solo LinuxMint 32 bit and 64 bit and no issues for wifi with them Shaun so no real issue not to swap completely over if you don’t need certain apps or gaming.
    We also have Vista 64 and xp 32 bit on some machines and Jackie’s Imac so a variety of OS’s to play with in our household.

  11. Jamie
    March 8, 2009 at 6:38 pm #

    I’m a Mac and a PC. I own an XP machine, a netbook running Win7 and a MacBook as well as many other Apple devices. I don’t really get into the fanboyism, they all have their faults and they all have their uses. I much prefer Apple hardware though. Design wise I can’t fault it. Operating system wise, not really fussed either way.

  12. admin
    March 8, 2009 at 9:15 pm #

    Wow! @Carl, that’s a pretty wide spread of machines in the past and now πŸ™‚ I had forgotten about the Dragon – I had a couple of friends who were rabid Dragon fans! Plenty of OSs too…. I think I would start to get confused…
    @Jamie Thanks for dropping by matey – how is the windows 7 on the netbook? Would be good to hear your thoughts.

  13. David Rinnan
    March 8, 2009 at 9:16 pm #

    I am pretty recent mac convert and fan. But I still know that I get the best raw computing power from my pc. It is still also used for games and similar stuff.

    The HTCP is running windows 7 which is working great. On the eee I have XP and easy peasy (ubuntu 8.10 adopted for netbooks).

    So Ive tried them all =)

    Even though I now consider myself a macuser I have many things I am disappointed with when it comes to the macs. Mainly down to the hardware, lack or ports, forced to buy stuff to even get things connected to screens etc etc. But the ux rocks!

  14. admin
    March 8, 2009 at 9:30 pm #

    David, welcome! Your first post here I think.
    Very pleased you have seen the light, once you go Mac, you never go back πŸ˜‰
    Looks like you have a really wide spread of OSs. Looks like I am a rare breed just running OSX.
    Regarding your lack of ports hassle, and screen woes, what in particular? I’ve never had any woes.

  15. WildelyCreative
    March 8, 2009 at 11:18 pm #

    Have always been a pc girl after working in too many UK office environments.
    Then I got an iPhone and if Mac’s are as intuitive to use as the iPhone then that’s my upgrade sorted next time round.
    Bit wary of changing to a completely different operating system and how quick it will be to work as I do with the pc now.
    Will probably need a good amount of advice from the experts… πŸ™‚

  16. Neil Anderson
    March 8, 2009 at 11:47 pm #

    Macs all the way. They’re fun to use.

  17. Don
    March 9, 2009 at 2:40 am #

    I’m a PC, Linux and Mac guy. In other words: I’m a Mac user who loves to run Windows and Ubuntu on my Mac, since it’s the only computer that can legally run them all.

    Personally, Linux is getting better, but still has a long way to go. Windows 7 looks promising, but once it is out it still won’t be quite as good as Leopard and with Snow Leopard ready to pounce, well, I don’t think I will be using OS X as my primary OS for a long time yet to come. More and more people, here in Canada where I live, seem to be switching to the Mac and none of them seem to be looking back.

  18. Mostly Harmless
    March 9, 2009 at 8:13 am #

    Started off on PCs in 1986 running an IBM PC AT 286 monstrosity and Aldus PageMaker. Windows version 1 I think as well. Awful. It soon got booted out for a Mac IIx also running Pagemaker and Freehand. It was at this time I came across the only Mac virus I’ve encountered.

    I now run the IT system for a small company in Beverley – all Mac based now, as we had a policy of ditching the Windows PCs. My maintenance workload dropped by over a half. We still run some Windows applications, but in virtual environments.

    Macs are not without their faults, but overall they are far easier to live with, more or less keeping out of your way. There is also the power of raw Unix tucked away should you need it.

    It’s Macs all the way at home – using Garageband for some serious recordings of the band I’m in for example. Shameless plug:
    http://www.myspace.com/fearofbicycles

  19. admin
    March 9, 2009 at 11:03 am #

    @WildelyCreative – very happy to help out if I can with your move over to Macs πŸ™‚ I was stuck with a PC in my old corporate job and almost summed up the company – bland, boring and stuck in the 1990s!

    @Neil – well summed up!

    @Don – I think that running, or being able to run multi environments is a HUGE plus for Macs. Many thanks for dropping by from Canada!

    @MostlyHarmless Welcome to the site! Interesting to hear the support side if things from you. Hope you can make the next MeetUp – would be good to meet you.
    PS Thanks for the music link – good stuff!

  20. Dave Harding
    April 8, 2009 at 11:32 pm #

    I was converted to Ubuntu Linux about a year ago. Moving from Windows, at first I was wary that the step might be too great, and retained a dual-boot on my (self-built) machine.
    However after about a week I realised that I had hardly booted into the XP partition, and now XP has been consigned to VirtualBox, and only geats booted if I have to refer to something when helping someone out with their Windows problem (although the first piece of advise I give is ‘get a decent operating system!’)
    That said I will be interested to see what the new Windows 7 has in store. However whether or not I’ll be interested enough to fork out the cash for an actual disc – that’s another question!

  21. admin
    April 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm #

    Dave, welcome to Hull Digital, and thanks for your comment! πŸ™‚
    I’m also interested in Windows 7, but have not seen it at all yet. If Apple fail to deliver a netbook, I MAY be tempted to get one with Windows 7 on for a bit of fun…
    Maybe! πŸ˜‰

  22. Jon Gibbins
    April 13, 2009 at 12:23 am #

    Hi guys, another newbie!

    Old-skool computer geek alert but have settled on the goode olde PC for current day use. πŸ˜‰

    I’m PC on both sides of the fence; Nix for work, internet etc & Windows for games and … that’s about it really.
    Dual booting at home but purely Linux at work. Ubuntu being the OS of choice because it just installs and off you go!

    I’m a bit of an OS junkie. I’ve tried lots of weird and wonderful stuff in the past with varied measures of success but since 2002 Nix has more or less had it sorted for me. Seven years later, I’m just still yet to decide on which distro I like best!

    If I had my way all my computing today would still be done on my absolute favourite; my Atari ST1040f !

    As for Macs … never used them. Looked at one once … got confused by the interface … opened up a command prompt. Bingo!

  23. admin
    April 13, 2009 at 9:26 am #

    Jon, welcome to Hull Digital!
    Sounds like you know your stuff, and I really need to read up on Nix! The Atari ST brings back some memories – I’m wondering if I have my BBC Model B somewhere?! A few friends had those and Dragons! πŸ™‚

  24. Ethan Gibson
    July 3, 2009 at 10:11 pm #

    I used to dual-boot Windows XP with Fedora 9, until I had a few problems upgrading to the latest version of Fedora (and more notably a Hard Disk failure).

    Linux is defiantly a different experience and would probably will get allot more user friendly. (in the end I spent allot of times on forums trying to install my graphics card). But I will defiantly be re-installing it later this year when I get a new computer.

    One thing I did notice at college was that, all the business orientated staff would say that Windows was better because of the standards they set with their software, and the programmers always preferred Linux/Unix because of the stability. I’m guessing this reflects in places of work.

  25. admin
    July 3, 2009 at 10:30 pm #

    Hi Ethan, thanks for your comment. Interesting views on Linux – I need to try it soon.

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  27. Michael Rose
    April 9, 2010 at 3:42 pm #

    A little from column A, a little from column B a little from column C.

    A Mac running Windows in Bootcamp/Parallels and a netbook with Ubuntu – covers all bases.

    And use Synergy and you can use one screen for them all.

  28. Alison Smyth
    April 13, 2010 at 4:19 pm #

    Ha, well I use all of them! I have a Windows 7 64 bit PC at work. Windows 7 is better than any toher Windows platform I’ve used. I also have a work supplied Mac Book Pro – I’m running OS X Snow Leopard, with Parallels 4 running an instance of XP 32 bit – our web content management system only runs in Internet Explorer unfortunately so it was a must do.

    At home, we’re a bit all over the place. We have two desktop PCs, one running XP 64 bit, one running Win 7 64 bit, and 3 laptops of varying ages, one running XP home and the other two running Ubuntu (8 and 9). I really like Ubuntu and have found it really easy to install and run since version 8. Would probably run it on everything at home if it wasn’t for Adobe creative suite……

  29. admin
    April 14, 2010 at 9:55 am #

    Alison, you are running the lot it seems! Impressive πŸ™‚

    Good to hear work supplying a decent machine !

  30. Ben
    April 14, 2010 at 12:56 pm #

    Ah Jon, how did I miss this until now? πŸ˜‰

    I’m firmly in the PC camp, as a PC gamer and enthusiast, I have always found myself reading, learning and upgrading various PC over the last few years.

    I don’t like Apple, I cant buy into there closed system, I don’t like top be restricted on how I use my devices, and I don’t like putting all my eggs in one very control freakish basket. Apple don’t play nicely with others (adobe, google, htc) and they spread lies to save face (flash is fine on a PC, the problem lies with Apple, why not just be honest, Jobs, and admit the only reason your scared of flash is because it would stop people using your app stores).

    I also have issues with the”my pc was crap, my mac is awesome” argument that I get form the Apple side of the fence all the time. Chances are your comparing some 500 quid Advent PC (quite often the “family computer”) to your new Β£1000+ Mac, how is this a fair comparison? Anyone who has used high end PC hardware, to the same level as that you get in your Apple, will know that a “speed” related argument is not valid.

  31. Michael Rose
    April 14, 2010 at 1:57 pm #

    If I were idealistic I’d *never* buy a closed system. Why shouldn’t I be able to re-program my washing machine to do an extra spin cycle? Or, for that matter, get my calculator to give ‘5’ when I ask it what is 2+2?

    Fact is closed systems work, they work very reliably without the need for drivers and updates and blah-de-blah. The quality of iPhone apps is MUCH higher than the Android equivalent. It’s closed, you need to by the SDK to join in, but I’ve yet to hear of an Android App millionaire — closed is good for business and good for developers (in many cases).

    If I were a hardcore gamer of course I’d spend my money on a high-spec PC. But for day to day (and business) use I choose Mac (I have Windows and Ubuntu and I consistently choose my Mac).

    Apple say Flash is buggy but yes recent developments clearly show it is their walled garden they are trying to protect. And why not, they’re a business.

    I think it’s wrong to compare ‘PCs’ with ‘Apple’ – PCs can be all manner of things from a low powered Acer Revo or Advent PC to a monster home-build and yes, of course, you can build something under the umbrella of ‘PC’ that’ll knock spots of an Apple — but it’s not a fair comparison at all.

    Of course one could build a monster PC Hackintosh that had all that power and would boot into both Mac and PC happily. Games from PC partition. Work on Mac OS-X. Perfect.

    As a switcher I can honestly say I only ever go back to Windows for old software that hasn’t been ported and the odd game. I’m in OS X 95% of the time and it knocks spots off XP, Vista and Windows7.

    Oh yeah, and it’s a Unix box too πŸ˜›

  32. Ben
    April 14, 2010 at 3:30 pm #

    Michael, I tend to find that both app marketplaces are full of crap, and when you cut though that crap you will find a core selection of apps, that if the developer has any sense, will be available on both platforms.

    I cant accept your comment on closed systems, the very blog your commenting on is powered by an example of the wonders of open source. Please don’t take that as me saying that Windows is open source, but its certainly closer to it than OSX. Your right though, in the sense that its the closed nature of apple that means they can spend time creating software that works perfectly on 4 or 5 bits of hardware, and not have the worry like Microsoft does of ensuring software will operate on a unknown amount of different hardware configurations across the planet. Thats why the comparison is wasted really, OSX and Windows are totally different things, that take totally different approaches to solve a common problem. They cant truly be compared.

    For years I’ve been a PC fan, I’ve had this argument countless times, but its only recently that I have seen just how underhanded Apple are as a company, and I now find myself not only disliking there systems, but also there very ethos and the way they operate.

    The lawsuits on HTC being a classic example – why not just go straight for google? Because they know they cant win, its a scare tactic, to try and slow down the development of android. That doesn’t scream confidence in there own system to me, they know it cant compete, that android knocks spots of iPhone OS, and its only the “cult of mac” that keeps there smartphone success alive, and guarantees a certain level of success with the iPad.

    The recent announcement regarding code languages for app development is total nonsense, way to lose the developer community Steve, because there mostly fuming.

    Starting fights with Adobe, A company who one of apples “target demographics” – creatives – also feel very attached too, just seems really odd to me. Especially considering the situation was born out of Apple not wanting to support flash, they threw the shit at adobe first, who were quite happy to work with Apple to iron out the issues with flash on macs, until Apple started to publicly badmouth them, the “cult of mac” jumped on this, and now I see at least 5 new blog posts a day about how “flash is dead” and “flash is bad – use HTML5” from people that clearly don’t understand, or have done sufficient research – why? Because Jobs said so.

    As a designer, I don’t actually like the OSX GUI, I find the dark grey bevels windows pretty depressing to work with, I cant stand the dock, and I like to be able to get into the system files etc. without feeling like I’m a spy behind enemy lines.

  33. Michael Rose
    April 14, 2010 at 3:57 pm #

    I can’t agree, the Apple app store and the cash it can generate gives decent developers an incentive to update and keep on improving their apps. There is a lot of crud there too but the highly rated, popular apps are really pretty awesome compared to anything I’ve yet to see on Android.

    I agree Open source is great for servers and blogging platforms, LAMP/MAMP/WAMP is all good – although LAMP is the only really open system lets be honest.

    Are Apple anymore underhanded than Microsoft? Remember the anti-trust lawsuit?

    I’m also not sure about “most Apple developers fuming” – I see a lot of Windows and Open Source people pointing and stirring but @Gruber et al seem pretty happy about it.

    I totally understand why Jobs wants to stop cross-compiling from CS5 – he wants to help people make money for themselves and for Apple and wants to secure that. Allowing Flash to come in at the top of the pyramid would be an insane business move.

    Apple want to send good stuff via HTML5, Canvas and Quicktime – you don’t need Flash for YouTube or iPlayer… you just need it for annoying adverts.

    Again Apple have their own hardware and they know what will run best on it, have a look at the iPhone ‘Call of Duty’ game, it’s awesome because it goes right to the Apple hardware without a Flash layer. See also Quake2 in HTML5 – try doing THAT in Flash.

    Unity3D looks promising and, as far as I can see, doesn’t fall foul of the ‘cross-compiling’ clause.

    As for system file access, bash in Terminal will do the trick.

  34. Ben
    April 14, 2010 at 4:45 pm #

    Michael, I agree the closed nature of Apple does come down to business decisions, but I don’t agree that a company that adopts a much more open approach cant flourish – take google, a plethora of free services, all backed up by a solid Advertising modal, that works. I’m not saying this method would work for apple, but I’m sure there’s a middle ground between the uber closed, control freakish way they operate now, and something more akin to google

  35. Steve Fleming
    April 15, 2010 at 1:16 pm #

    Started with the Apple II, then really got going with the groundbreaking but unstable Apple Lisa in 84, and the child of Lisa, the Mac in 85. Then changed jobs & had to fight to rent an Apricot (which I pushed too far & it broke). Still missing MacProject, 25 years later, & still in exile in PC land.

  36. Darren Fisher
    April 15, 2010 at 2:02 pm #

    As a Child I was the first kid in the street to have a C64 and a slate bed snooker table in the back room but, I think that said more about my dad than me as it was always a struggle to get near either.

    In my working world I been through all the incarnations of the IBM compatibles, from green screen MS-DOS machines through the whole Windows OS’s. I had dabbled with a few Mac’s in my time, (LC’s and the first iMac) but never really took to them.

    When I left the Council to study for a career change I bought an Acer Laptop with Vista OS. I thought the OS looked ok but it was so slow.

    I hated the “Fanboys” at Uni who always went on about the superiority of Apple without any substance or reasoned debate apart from Microsoft being evil.

    Going into a design industry I thought I best buy a Mac to get myself comfortable on both platforms, even if I was gonna keep it a secret from the “fanboys”. I went for my cheapest (student) portable option which was a Macbook (i’m on it now). My Macbook looked better than any laptop i’d used before and the performance was exceptional. It has been my most reliable machine to date and it cost less than my Acer (then).

    As someone who has been on both sides I would say use the tools that are best for the purpose you wish to use them.

    Hopefully I will never have to use a Windows PC for design/web again. If I get a job in an office with WinPC’s then I will ask for any objections on me bringing my 27″ iMac into the studio.

    I’ve kinda been bitten by Apple products now and have really sold out. I have had 2 iPhones, just waiting on a new release in June. I am also considering getting a MacBook Pro whilst I can take advantage of educational prices, and once I’ve had an iPad in my hand I will have to try hard to resist starting a Mobile broadband contract for one of those (I am still underwhelmed).

    What can I say, like Mr Moss I’m a sucker for beautifully designed and manufactured products, It’s a good job Bang and Olufsen AV equipment is well out of my reach.

  37. admin
    April 15, 2010 at 2:42 pm #

    “What can I say, like Mr Moss I’m a sucker for beautifully designed and manufactured products, It’s a good job Bang and Olufsen AV equipment is well out of my reach.”

    I hear you!

    Love the comment from Steve the Fleming about still being exiled in PC land. A horrific state of affairs.

    Really enjoyed a very reasoned ‘dicussion’ from Ben and Michael about the merits and bad points of PC vs Mac. I cannot believe it took this long for Ben to chime in as he said πŸ˜‰

    I look it in a far simply manner. PCs look shocking. Who an earth in their right mind ships laptops with stickers on? I’m so more productive on a Mac, and for me, the execution, ease of use, look and elegance of OSX makes Windows anything look like it is out of the last century.

    Not too mention the low-hassle, it just works daily bonuses of using a Mac.

    Sermon over πŸ™‚

    PS And the way everything works seamlessly together ….

    MacPro to MacBook Air to iPhone.

  38. daman
    November 1, 2010 at 5:43 pm #

    my users pc from past until now I am using windows os 7 after I knew I fell in love with MAC os snow leopard. and I really like pc mac especially 17 “G4 iMac. and how where can I get it. while I was living in Indonesia. is there any one who want to give to me. and now I’m starting to switch to mac

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